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  • October 20, 2012 at 8:17 pm
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    They won’t have chance to behave like dictators as after the bell right…?

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    • April 28, 2013 at 4:18 pm
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      The Geneva Convention only applies to soldiers or civilian leaders in battle, not the general populous.

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      • May 13, 2014 at 9:15 am
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        that is incorrect the Geneva Convention apply to anyone who’s country is in a time of war

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      • January 30, 2015 at 8:12 pm
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        ACTUALLY. This part of what is contained in The Fourth Geneva law of Collective Punishment DOES go towards the general population, INCLUDING SCHOOL:
        Collective punishments
        Article 33. No persons may be punished for an offense he or she has not personally committed. Collective penalties and likewise all measures of intimidation or of terrorism are prohibited

        They are not allowed to punish an individual or group of people for something they didn’t do. This means if that dick in the corner of the room yells and gets you held back, you are allowed to leave and will not get in trouble, and if they TRY to get you in trouble, read this to them!

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        • February 16, 2015 at 2:02 pm
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          Wow that is an amazing way to put it and I like it I will read that to my teacher next time

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        • February 18, 2015 at 9:56 am
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          This is ture the teachers can’t keep you after as a punshiment.

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          • May 19, 2016 at 7:43 pm
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            Unfortunately under article 2 the use of the geneva conventions is only applicable if the territory of your country is occupied by an opposition NOT of your nation. If your territory is occupied by an enemy, or opposition NOT of your nation, then feel free to shove article 33 in their face because then it is applicable.
            Don’t get me wrong, I absolutely despise collective punishment, I even advocate against it publically, but unfortunately for many article 33 is not applicable.

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        • October 27, 2015 at 5:47 pm
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          Geneva conventions are only for times of war and the one you are talking about takes place in Convention (IV) relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War. Geneva,

          12 August 1949.
          so is it really illegal????

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        • October 30, 2016 at 4:23 am
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          The Geneva Conventions only apply in Wartime, not in school. “No persons may be punished for an offense he or she has not personally committed. Collective penalties and likewise all measures of intimidation or of terrorism are prohibited” means that if a group member from something regarding war such as squads does something bad then only they may be held liable. The others will not be in trouble.

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        • November 3, 2016 at 7:38 am
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          This is absurd. The Geneva Convention applies to a country at war. A classroom is most definitely not a country, and teachers are not an oppressive foreign power committing crimes against humanity. If a group of uncontrollable little terrorists makes your day difficult, then you remind them of your class rules. These rules are made not to oppress anyone, but to ensure successful learning. If that means i keep them in then i’Lloyd do it. If they don’t like it, well then they can home school. It is after all a democracy right. So take that article 33 of the GC and shove it.

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          • December 8, 2016 at 12:47 pm
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            And someone’s a bitter teacher! Reason I always say there are a lot of bad ppl in good positions in life, watch out and put those ppl in there place so their behavior doesn’t continue. Try harder don’t blame innocent children than wonder why ppl are nice when they grow up and wonder why decade by decade more and more ppl are selfish. Their taught that by their LAZY ASS wipe teacher!

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          • February 20, 2017 at 3:34 pm
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            The Geneva convention applies to both civilians and soldiers it is not a convention for the good of a house but for the good of the people, so your statement is incorrect it also does not only apply to countries at war it applies to all countries under influence by governmental power or dictatorship and currently applies to america as it is under the influence of a political leader who is not wanted by the majority of the population there for the acts in the Geneva convention are applicable,I can vouch for that with my law degree and job.

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          • March 8, 2017 at 5:51 pm
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            You’re a salty little piece of human garbage, aren’t you?
            If one person does something wron then it is extremely immoral to punnish the whol class for it. Situations to avoid punishing all the class for: 2 pupils talk and you say “if one more person talks the whole class is staying behind”; if 3 people forget their homework and you say to the class “this isnt good enough i expect more from you”; etc. Now please change your bad outdated methods or retire.

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        • April 10, 2017 at 6:22 pm
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          Note: This doesn’t apply in countries that haven’t signed or agreed on the Geneva conventions like Palistine, Vatican, and the United States of America.

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      • February 22, 2017 at 7:42 am
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        Yes it does. The Geneva convention protects all people either civilians of the U.S or soldiers.

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      • February 24, 2017 at 12:13 pm
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        Wrong it states any protected person that includes all civilians.

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  • April 28, 2013 at 4:18 pm
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    The Geneva Convention only applies to soldiers or civilian leaders in battle, not the general populous.

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    • January 19, 2016 at 12:39 pm
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      I simply think it sends the wrong message to young people. It teaches them to be co-dependent rather than independent. It says “You are responsible for this other kid’s actions” and later in life, one must wonder if the victim in an abusive relationship learned early on that “This is your fault”.

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  • June 29, 2013 at 3:00 pm
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    It only violates the American Convention’s laws

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  • December 18, 2013 at 3:12 pm
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    follow my friend and me on insta @sleazzy_nikita and@xxjt23xx

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    • April 16, 2015 at 3:05 pm
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      hey sto p trying too advertise yourself

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  • May 13, 2014 at 9:14 am
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    That is incorrect the Geneva Convention applies to anyone that their country is in a time of war

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  • July 12, 2014 at 12:10 am
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    That’s wrong that law doesn’t apply to general public it’s only if your being held as a prisoner of war so it’s entirely legal to keep a student after the bell people should really study and know what they’re talking about before posting on the internet

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    • September 8, 2014 at 3:48 pm
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      don’t you consider being held after class as being a prisoner of war i sure do

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    • February 24, 2016 at 2:57 pm
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      wrong because article 33 says it applies to the public

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    • April 25, 2016 at 6:41 am
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      Bruh, if you get held captive, do you really think that they are going to let you do that. Or even go to school.

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    • July 31, 2016 at 10:43 pm
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      Actually you are very wrong, there us a section called law’s on collectivep punishment, that basically says you cannot be help by something someone else did, that you did not do. Maybe YOU should do you’re research.

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    • February 20, 2017 at 3:35 pm
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      Maybe you should foir instance article 2 of the Geneva convention and article 44 of the childrens right act

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  • July 16, 2014 at 9:14 pm
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    As the above crowd said, the Geneva Convention Laws only apply in a time of war. Nice try fooling me, you ignorants.

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    • July 21, 2014 at 2:26 am
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      For all those who may be confused…I’m just gonna put this here. And those of you saying that it’s only used at times of war…..where are our (USA) troops at fighting? There is a war. Congratulation, your grasp on reality astonishes me.

      Article 33. No persons may be punished for an offense he or she has not personally committed. Collective penalties and likewise all measures of intimidation or of terrorism are prohibited.

      Pillage is prohibited.
      Reprisals against persons and their property are prohibited.

      Under the 1949 Geneva Conventions, collective punishment is a war crime. By collective punishment, the drafters of the Geneva Conventions had in mind the reprisal killings of World War I and World War II. In the First World War, during the Rape of Belgium, the Germans executed Belgian villagers in mass retribution for resistance activity. In World War II, the Germans carried out a form of collective punishment to suppress resistance. Entire villages or towns or districts were held responsible for any resistance activity that occurred in them. The conventions, to counter this, reiterated the principle of individual responsibility. The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) Commentary to the conventions states that parties to a conflict often would resort to “intimidatory measures to terrorize the population” in hopes of preventing hostile acts, but such practices “strike at guilty and innocent alike. They are opposed to all principles based on humanity and justice.”

      Additional Protocol II of 1977 explicitly forbids collective punishment. But as fewer states have ratified this protocol than GCIV, GCIV Article 33 is the one more commonly quoted.

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      • September 11, 2014 at 2:11 am
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        The US is not at war, last declaration of war was WW2. Your grasp on reality astonishes me.

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        • September 11, 2014 at 2:43 am
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          So my brothers are not over seas fighting a war on terror? hmm well I suppose they could just come home right? I kinda find it ironic you commented near 9/11. Well I suppose you are somewhat right sense we are becoming more and more like a police state. Again…I’m just gonna leave this here for you Bob….I’d love for you to read the last one too so don’t stop.

          On Sept. 14, 2001, the U.S. Congress in effect declared war when it passed the Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF) as a joint resolution. The vote was overwhelmingly one-sided. In the House, the vote was 420 Ayes, 1 Nay, and 10 Not Voting. In the Senate, the vote was 98 Ayes, 0 Nays, and 2 Present/Not Voting. Rep. Barbara Lee was the nay vote in the House.

          One may argue about the wisdom of this measure and the logic of this measure. One may evaluate the quality of the measure as law. One may argue about the conduct of the military operations under the Executive that has been enabled by this measure. One may evaluate the ramifications for the U.S. government, for the world, and for Americans. Indeed, one may form innumerable opinions from many perspectives about this measure. But one cannot deny that this AUMF set in motion the ongoing war on terror that is being conducted by the U.S. government.

          The existence of the war on terror is prior to the conduct of the war. The conduct is malleable and can take many forms. As long as the resolution exists, the war will be conducted somehow. The conduct is important primarily as it may influence the public’s opinion and the opinion of the Congress that such a war should exist at all, for there is no way to end this war without passing a resolution that ends it. In other words, if the conduct is such that the costs are seen to be vastly outweighing the benefits, then the chances of ending the resolution rise.

          “That the President is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons.”

          Sooo ya. we’re at war. with an “organization”.

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          • September 12, 2014 at 8:34 pm
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            That is why it is officially and formally classified as a conflict. It is not a war, you cannot be at war with an idea.

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          • September 19, 2014 at 8:23 pm
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            so you’re saying we’re fighting an idea and not an organized group? is that right bob?

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        • October 13, 2014 at 9:25 pm
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          um so whats going on in Syria isn’t a war

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        • January 8, 2015 at 8:00 pm
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          LOL, after a period of time ocupping a country in the form of warfare the state in which the war takes place is technically considered a war state without proper declaration by congress.

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        • May 31, 2015 at 9:11 am
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          You my friend are an absolute imbecile. WW2 was the last world war. There have been many others in between. It amazes me how stupid you can be. Our soldiers are dying because of this war on terror yet you want to say there is no war? Turn on the news and learn something.

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          • February 24, 2016 at 3:05 pm
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            yes I agree Grimwaldo. We are not only at war with ISIS…but also North Korea and also any place where there is Communism….the U.S sighned a treaty saying that we would intervene anything to do with communism….

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        • November 11, 2015 at 10:17 am
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          Oh really? What about Vietnam? Iraq? Afghanistan? Gulf War? Desert Storm? Korea? All the other numerous little wars? Seriously, do your research. That law applies to all civilian and military personal. Regardless of time of war.

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        • February 1, 2016 at 4:16 pm
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          The United States has been at War for 222 out of 239 years, which is 93% of our existence. The most recent declaration of War did not come from WWII but from Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi the Leader of ISIS and it occurred on 2012 back when it was still called ISI.

          “As for America the head of Kufr the protector of the cross, I say to it: your war on the Muslims is a loss and soon Insha’Allah you will collapse and declare defeat, so look what have you reaped and what the Mujahid in reaped in two decades of your heading of the war against them. As for your economy it has become almost on the brink of the abyss, and as for your people and soldiers their morale is shattered and their souls are desperate, and the spirit of defeat runs on them until that it become for who wanted to win in the elections to promise to withdraw the armies and stop the war, and as for your security, your citizens travel to any country while they are scared looking about in a state of fear, then the Mujahid in set off behind your armies that fled and have promised to make you taste worst than that you have tasted by Osama and you will see them in your homeland by Allah willing, since our war with you only began now so be ready.”

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        • February 24, 2016 at 3:11 pm
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          Your a dumb ass bob….we at war with North korea even though its a cold war…we are at war with ISIS and Pakistan and in a Cold war with Soviet Union aka Russia

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    • February 24, 2016 at 2:59 pm
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      technically we are at war…with isis…Pakistan….north korea…need I say more

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    • July 31, 2016 at 10:44 pm
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      You’re wrong?? under the section of collective punishment, it says it’s not just a time of war.

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  • August 5, 2014 at 3:40 pm
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    Do I can just leave after thebell

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  • October 28, 2014 at 9:28 pm
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    I am a senior in high school, and today there were a couple fights in the halls and bathroom involving some students in my class. After the fight was over and they returned to class the principal and security guard walked into the class and took them out. (The class we have are 3 45 min period) this was after our first 5 min break we have in between classes. before our 2nd 5 min break one of the Vice-principal walked in and told us we were not permitted to leave class for the break. i assure you that it was only my classroom that was held back while the rest of the school went to their next class (even tho we were just going to return to the same classroom) I want to know if that was legal for the school to hold us back from our break. to me it felt as if they were punishing my classmate and I for what a few student did.

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    • December 16, 2014 at 12:38 pm
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      STFU you whinning baby.

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  • November 26, 2014 at 1:19 am
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    It is true that under the 1949 Geneva Conventions collective punishment is considered a war crime. “No general penalty, pecuniary or otherwise, shall be inflicted upon the population on account of the acts of individuals for which they cannot be regarded as jointly and severally responsible.”

    But, this rule does not apply to students soon as they walk into school (property), because they do not have rights as general citizens, or war criminals or common criminals.

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    • September 4, 2015 at 12:37 am
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      General human rights still apply. Therefore it is illegal to punish others for one person’s actions. The Geneva only applies in a time of war

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  • January 12, 2015 at 12:25 am
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    Sooo… Is it illegal or not ?

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    • January 12, 2015 at 1:49 am
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      No this isn’t true once a student walks through the school door this dose not apply to them. So yes the teacher can hold u back

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      • February 20, 2017 at 3:41 pm
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        No they can’t because even if we did say the Geneva convention act was only applicable at times of war which it isn’t there are still the human rights act which says people are only responsible for their own wrong doings and the child’s right act

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    • November 2, 2015 at 3:16 pm
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      But isn’t it stupid that teachers can do a collective punishment?!

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  • January 27, 2015 at 10:33 pm
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    The U.S. never officially ended the war with North Korea. Just called a ceace fire,so…

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    • September 4, 2015 at 12:34 am
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      When a country retracts troops from an enemy area it’s over.

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  • March 9, 2015 at 7:42 pm
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    So does this law prohibits teachers from keeping us because the was with north korea never ended were still in war does it apply to school or not what section of the geneva conventions specifically applies

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  • May 12, 2015 at 9:03 am
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    convention four refers to only the persons in war times so everyone can be held back and under the 1949 Geneva Conventions, collective punishment is a war crime. only in war time this is applicable, so technically they cant hold us back because we are at war with north Korea even though it is a cold war and not hot war

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    • September 4, 2015 at 12:32 am
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      That’s entirely wrong. We’re not at war with Korea.

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      • February 24, 2016 at 3:01 pm
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        we are at war with korea…duh we have soldiers over there although we are at a stale mate we are still at war because the U.S will intervene when ever communism tries to spread….north korea is trying to spread it to south korea and we went into a stale mate in the 50s and we have been stock piling ammunition and rockets atomic bombs ever since

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      • February 24, 2016 at 3:13 pm
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        yes the fuck we are We are allied with South Korea we sent soldiers over there to help….U.S sighned a treaty saying that we will intervene any war that includes communism to take over

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    • October 27, 2015 at 5:52 pm
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      a warm war isnt a thing

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  • September 4, 2015 at 12:30 am
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    The Geneva convention only applies when the country is in a time of war. It applies to EVERYONE. There are four conventions. 1. Military 2. Sick, and injured 3. POW’s 4. Civilian treatment during a time of war.

    It is illegal to hold a class back because of one person’s actions. It’s a violation of your human rights. Just like not letting a person use the restroom is also illegal and with the right proof, can be considered harassment.

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  • October 13, 2015 at 11:47 pm
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    I just want to end the argument I go to Harvard and study law and order everyone that said its legal to keep students after school is fully illegal think of it this way I quote my professor “keeping kids after school is kidnapping in a way” how is it kidnapping I don’t really know but let’s just say you had a child or for those of you that do have a. Child how would you react if your child hasn’t come home on his/her regular time according to the Geneva conventions

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  • May 11, 2016 at 3:35 pm
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    So what if a student has a job, and the teacher holds him/her back along with the rest of the class if only one student misbehaved??? How’s that gonna look on the student with a job?

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  • September 12, 2016 at 3:07 am
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    This has actually been quite entertaining. I’m just trying to find info on collective punishment. My son in 3rd grade has to run with all of the other students for their entire recess because of a few who can’t control themselves. He is pissed, he didn’t do anything wrong. I’ve learned nothing except that there are so many opinions, the kid wanting the info probably already graduated. Then we have the Bob and I forgot his name war… Hehe, war. We must not forget the story above about someones threat to get us back way worse than Osama did. So yeah, besides that last one I mentioned, y’all have been quite entertaining.

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  • October 26, 2016 at 3:08 pm
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    I realize that this law technically only applies to countries during a time of war, but could it also apply if your country is being invaded by a terrorist group? I live in the US, and currently, ISIS is a real concern and a threat to us. In fact, a few months ago, there was a terrorist attack in a town way too close to the town I live in. Does this law still apply?

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    • October 26, 2016 at 3:22 pm
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      Well, actually, now that I think about it…we technically ARE at war with ISIS…and Pakistan…and Afghanistan… Need I say more?

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